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#1 GTi Si

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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 08:24

Love my TT V6 DSG but the commute is working out more expensive for fuel than expected plus when I bought the car it was when I was still getting the train and not driving to work. 

 

So I’m considering changing car to save on fuel and road tax. Have narrowed it down to these:

 

Skoda Fabia 1.4TSi vRS

BMW 320d or 330d (after 2008)

A3 2.0TDi (168bhp)

 

This is based on 10years old or less, similar performance to the TT and being automatic. Budget is £5-£6k. 

 

Plus need to be install friendly with suitable headunit and door mounting locations. 

 

Any feedback or views on these? Any other suggestions I should look into?

 

Cheers,

 

Simon


Edited by GTi Si, 07 Jun 2018 - 08:25.


#2 Cristian

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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 10:51

assuming the new cars do 50mpg and you get 30mpg out the TT, based on £1.30 a liter and 10k miles a year, the difference is £700 a year. (Keep the TT and enjoy yourself?)

 

Doesn't answer your question, but then, thats the internet. :)



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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 12:34

You also have to consider the service costs of other cars, how well you know your car, if you do any work on it yourself..

 

What sort of miles are you looking at a year?

 

20k a year +, and yeah, it might well be worth considering a swap.

 

What I will say is that diesels can start becoming a real pain in the arse once then get over around 6/7 years old - thats not an exact age guide, depends on the vehicle, but consider the repair costs of injectors, fuel pumps, egr valves, all the added crap you get with a modern diesel.

 

Don't rule out modern smaller engined petrol cars - they are getting plenty of poke out of them nowadays, with good MPG and the repair costs are significantly reduced over patching up a diesel motor.

 

 

If you are really into those 3 cars above, the A3 and 3 series BM are a league above a Fabia.



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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 13:29

Only the Skoda is a real downsize and its a Polo. 

You'll need to go up a generation to start seeing real fuel savings
The others will at some point spring a bill on you.. Four pot 320D in the price bracket seem to have stretchy timing chains IME.... VW 2.0 Pd engines are OK but have their quirks
Then there is  the Governmental Diesel hate being stepped up a level

A3 TFSi 2.0 Petrol

Great for install better than V6 on juice and nippy  probably faster than the V6 and still better on fuel with a remap 
 


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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 16:54

Thanks chaps. 

 

The A3 TFSI would be good but think it might be over budget. 

 

Have spent quite a bit on the TT in the past 6 months but to make it still better is bodywork stuff for dents and scruff marks which aren’t cheap either. She’s done 132k miles and it’s value has now probably bottomed out. 

 

Simon



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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 17:17

I Got an TFsi 2006 on a 55plate S line with 85K and Full Audi history some sort of special edition with Glass roof and full leather for £4000 over 14months ago 

Theres loads of choice out there

I doubt you'd get much return on tiding up a mk1 TT V6
They are fun cars but like you say values are low and they are not going to spring back there are far far too many TT's out in the wild



 


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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 17:32

Will look into that Chris. 

 

What are the doors like for speakers? In the TT the speakers mount to the door card which is far from good. 

 

I want something with similar 0-60 times (6 - 7secs but no doubt slower in real life!) but better mpg (I get 24mpg on average per tank) and cheaper to tax and insure. 

 

Simon



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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 21:27

I’d get the old favourite (and newer) Octavia vrs before an A3. If you need more space, even the Passat sport with the same engine is a nice place to be. 



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Posted 07 Jun 2018 - 21:58

Don’t want anything too big - 3 series is long enough as it for commuting and weekend family use. 

 

Was told by the wife tonight that the TT is a mid life crisis statement - I’m not 40 yet!

 

In all seriousness I need a 4 door to get kids in the back more easily than the TT and cost less to tax, insure etc. But still needs to be quick ;)

 

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Posted 08 Jun 2018 - 12:02

BMW isn't easy on audio installation... or it's plug & play kits etc...

 

Fabia would be too much of a downgrade from your TT in terms of build quality etc..

 

Audi A3 would be the best option in my point of view on these recommendations. Diesels need a bit more maintenance, but the small turbo'd petrol engines are also vulnerable for blown turbo's.



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Posted 08 Jun 2018 - 12:37

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Posted 09 Jun 2018 - 17:06

Don't get a BMW 320d or any BMW with the N47 engine. They have timing chain issues, with the large service intervals being cited as the reason for why they die; being at the back of the engine the chains aren't a cheap job to do either. My garage has stopped doing them but now sends them onto a local BMW specialist.

Another way to look at the TT is that it's in good shape and won't lose cash given its age etc.


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Posted 13 Jun 2018 - 21:13

Going to also put in the Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi (MK 2.5 and 3) on the list.

 

Top 3 are:

BMW 330d or 320 if I don't want the speed

Audi A3 2.0TDI or TFSI dependant on speed vs cost

Ford Focus 2.0 TDCi (post 2011)

 

Any views on how good each of their auto boxes are?

 

Simon



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Posted 13 Jun 2018 - 22:54

Out of those the Focus TDCi; 

 

330d is a safe choice and great with the autobox. The 320d, no so much and with the aforementioned timing chain issues.

 

What year of Audi are you looking at? If it's a PD ensure it has a new head ; they go porous over certain model years, and a new head is the only way around it.


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Posted 14 Jun 2018 - 12:47

Thanks Chas. 

 

Interesting you say the Focus - is the engine and auto box good? It’s a late consideration for me!

 

The A3 would be 2008 - 2010 or what I could get for £6k. 

 

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Posted 14 Jun 2018 - 16:58

The Autobox depends.

If it's a Jatco 5 speed they do live on for some time despite what the forums say; I know VD was under the impression they were unreliable from forum talk. What helps them live is transmission fluid changes when it should be changed and with the correct equipment and fluid.

 

Our Mondeo V6 had one. Until 180k it never saw a fluid change.  It had issues, yes beyond that, but that was down to us buying what was a pup of a car at the start; the engine had been cooked massively 80k earlier only for the replacement engine not to be installed that well. All things considered it did well!  MPG wasn't that bad either! Around town 22-24MPG was possible, in a 2.5 V6.

 

My mate has a well maintained MkIV Mondeo with the 2.0 enigne from the Focus but the Jatco 'box. He is very happy. I know when I spoke to him about the car when he was at 250k it was running well. He had changed the oil when he bought it and kept changing it when he needed to; every 60k rings a bell.

The autobox is fine, but some modern DSGs and 8 speed autoboxes will work quite a bit better; it's progress.

 

But it was fine to drive around in if that's what you're asking.


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Posted 14 Jun 2018 - 20:10

Cheers :)

I currently have a DSG box in my 2004 TT and have changed the oil twice already in my almost 2 years of ownership as it had never been done before in the 130k miles before I bought it.

 

Simon



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Posted 14 Jun 2018 - 21:54

bmw 1 series diesel turbo ?


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Posted 15 Jun 2018 - 05:56

as above. id consider a 1 series. they are cheap enough now too. i have the 120d with the 177bhp engine in it and it pulls really well. if i drive it like a arsehole it will return no less than 45.5mpg. road tax is about 120 a year, insurance is coppers. as chas has mentioned though, the n47 engine suffers with timing chain problems due to the long oil change intervals. mines on 174k and still drives like a new car.
most bmw's are high mileage and a lot of them are auto, i suppose that sort of answers the auto box question.


Edited by alex19, 15 Jun 2018 - 05:57.

I've been hearing more and more about 29"ers over the past few months...I'd love to ride one !


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Posted 15 Jun 2018 - 15:20

bmw 1 series diesel turbo ?

 

As long as it's a pre-07 (or whenever the N47 engine came in) they're a sound choice. The M47s they started out with seem to be a safe choice.

As said, it's not cheap if/when the chain goes bang. Even if you catch it in time it's an engine out job to change them thanks to the location.


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